Thursday, September 4, 2008

Why Obama is a Lesser Moral Monster (But a Monster Nonetheless)

I argued earlier that if a fetus is a person THEN it is wrong to terminate it.

I personally believe that personhood begins at conception, so I believe that abortion is inherently morally wrong (except in certain circumstances when the pregnancy critically endangers the life of the mother).

Now, you can disagree with me and support abortion without being a moral monster, if you believe that a fetus is not a person. You are wrong and there are terrible consequences to your false belief, but you are not a moral monster.

If you believe a fetus is a person AND you are pro-choice then you ARE a moral monster, because you are knowingly supportive of premeditated murder.

But what if you don't know for sure? I say that you are only slightly less of a monster than if you did know better, but a monster nonetheless. Like I said before, NEVER kill unless you can ID your target.

Would you stab a knife through a blanket if you weren't sure whether that the lump underneath was a human person or not?

When asked "Do you personally believe that life begins at conception?"

Obama answered:
This is something that I have not come to a firm resolution on. I think it's very hard to know what that means, when life begins. Is it when a cell separates? Is it when the soul stirs? So I don't presume to know the answer to that question. What I know is that there is something extraordinarily powerful about potential life and that that has a moral weight to it that we take into consideration when we're having these debates.

-Source: 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008
How can he possibly justify support for abortion without being sure about when life begins?


  1. Your analysis is flawed in two fashions:

    First) God has written truth in the heart of man. We know life begins, at least somewhere in the womb. We may argue the day (ie conception) but the location cannot be denied. Therefore, all murders performed in the womb are murders. People may choose to mitigate this for the sake of convenience and political expediency, but in their heart, they know the truth.

    Second) You pulled one quote from Obama but you ignored his record. While serving in the House of the State of Illinois, he sponsored a bill that allowed doctors to terminate the life of a baby that survived a botched abortion. Do you really think he believed the baby born alive was not a person? Obama is a greater monster. He uses words to cover great sins.

  2. You are right about the moral law and about equating abortion with murder.

    You are also right about Obama's horrific record.

    But what you forgot to include is his terrifying and publicly stated intentions.

  3. Louis - I commented; you forgot "his terrifying and public stated intentions." Remember, you are the one who claims he is a "lesser moral monster."

  4. this is max.

    so you're cool with abortion if the woman's life is threatened? what about the idea that the baby is a non-intentional aggressor or whatever the term is? if you grant full personhood at can one pick between full persons? (i don't know if i know what i mean by "full" persons)

  5. @ Max

    Well you have to understand that tubal pregnancies typically take the life of the baby and the mother. Usually you can either save the mother or neither.


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